A teacher in Finland explains why her country’s school system is the best in the world:

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“We pay teachers like doctors, students enjoy over an hour of recess, and there’s no mandatory testing–the opposite of what America does.”

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10 Responses to A teacher in Finland explains why her country’s school system is the best in the world:

  1. Jason Bedrick says:

    Actually, teachers in Finland are NOT paid like doctors. They’re paid less than teachers in the US and it’s more expensive to live in Finland, so financially they’re worse off.

    http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/no-teachers-in-finland-are-not-paid-like-doctors/

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    • Amber says:

      It’s not that they are Paid like doctors that counts, it’s that they are educated like dr.s or better. Something like only 10% of people who want to be Teachers get through. You are required a masters. They also have co teaching much more often than you find here, which would make the lower income level reasonable. It’s also worth pointing out they also spend much less on their students per student. But they get better results. Maybe dollar signs are the wrong place to be looking. Even if they are poor, in Finland it doesn’t so much matter. The least you can make there is like 1600 a month from the government I don’t remember exact numbers, but they have a very good social program to prevent people from having to worry about things like homelessness or going hungry.

      On the plus side you get said Masters 100% free, as well as your food room and board paid for it you are a native to the country, so it’s not like in the US where you are burdened for your whole life with student debt.

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  2. Robert says:

    Wow, how embarrassing for American teachers. I mean, if American teachers had even an ounce of curiosity, they would check the facts before posting this crap. But they don’t. Finnish doctors make twice what Finnish teachers make, and the average American teacher earns more than the average Finnish teacher. As a minimum, Finnish teachers must also have a masters degree, and the cost of living is significantly higher, too.

    So in short, if American teachers want to be like Finnish teachers, they’ll need to go back to school and then take a pay cut.

    Idiots.

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    • charlene gwin says:

      http://www.businessinsider.com/finland-education-school-2011-12?op=1
      The web site above sites its sources as the Smithsonian, OECD/PISA, The New Republic and The NY Times. The pay is not the same as doctors; however, it says the status and respect is. Less than 10% of applicants are accepted to the teacher programs and a Masters degree is required, but the state pays for it. Also, the pay after 15 years of experience rivals any college graduate in other fields; whereas in the US teachers make far less than other fields after 15 yrs experience.

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    • Tami says:

      Not quite, Robert. The biggest difference between the educational systems has nothing to do with salary and teacher education. It has to do with the fact that teachers in Finland are not asked to educate students who are homeless, abused, hungry, etc. because the government takes care of all people regardless of their title, ancestry or race. Perhaps you should do your research…just a suggestion.

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    • So how do you know a teacher posted this? Name calling is very counterproductive.

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  3. Amber says:

    At the University of Helsinki, a mere 6.7% of those who applied to be primary school teachers were admitted this year to the education school.
    That’s a lower acceptance rate than the 10% of applicants admitted to the University of Helsinki’s schools of law and medicine.
    By comparison, the School of Education at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee accepted 96% of undergraduate students who applied for the 2011 year, and 88% of post-baccalaureate applicants.

    I think we found the real reason their teachers are better.

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  4. Paskaa says:

    What it says on the picture is not true at all.
    1# “We pay teachers like doctors” WOW, what a complete bullshit.
    Average teachers salary is 3551 euros where as average doctors salary is 6743 euros.
    2# “Students enjoy over an hour of recess” Also not true. Longest break I’ve had is 30 minutes and that’s lunch. Other breaks are 10 to 15 minutes.
    3# “There’s no mandatory testing” I’m actually laughing to the person who wrote this. Where did you get this information? Every subject you study, every course you go in has a mandatory test if you want to pass it and get a grade from it.

    I really don’t know how it is in america but all the things that it says on the picture about Finnish school system are wrong.

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    • Sioux says:

      Do people who post comments on these entries read what is said in earlier posts? Many of the objections raised in later posts are addressed in earlier ones, And why the OTT hostility? (I am neither Finnish nor American, BTW, so have no axe to grind.) Granted, the pay comment is incorrect, but I can see what was trying to be achieved in the doctor comparison. Maybe a new, more correct comparison in “letter” as well as “spirit” could be devised. In the meantime chill on the “idiots!” type comments and the repetition of previously addressed issues. Try discussing real issues actually germane to the topic.

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  5. matt says:

    Seriously. Learn to fackin read before you comment people!

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